訪談設(shè)計(jì)師：Rafael Hulme

Rafael Hulme, 一位來(lái)自澳大利亞的工業(yè)設(shè)計(jì)師，喜歡旅行的他把自己的設(shè)計(jì)建立在了人們與動(dòng)物的需求之上，在嘗試過(guò)多個(gè)工作領(lǐng)域后，他憑借著自己積累下的各種經(jīng)驗(yàn)依舊在設(shè)計(jì)的道路上不斷地探索，嘗試找尋新鮮的事物。今天，他與我們分享的又是怎樣的一種想法與經(jīng)歷呢？

Narkii：

您為什么會(huì)成為一名工業(yè)設(shè)計(jì)師呢？跟您小時(shí)候的興趣愛(ài)好有關(guān)嗎？

Why Would you become an industrial designer?Is it related to your interests in your childhood?

Rafael Hulme：

作為一個(gè)小男孩，我的父親總是會(huì)鼓勵(lì)我嘗試創(chuàng)作屬于自己的東西。那時(shí)我會(huì)生他的氣，但現(xiàn)在我卻很感激。很高興能夠從頭開(kāi)始創(chuàng)造外觀和功能都完美的東西。對(duì)此我非常感謝我的父親。當(dāng)我14歲的時(shí)候，我開(kāi)始對(duì)衣服感興趣，不久之后就向我的朋友以及當(dāng)?shù)氐囊患揖返赇N售服裝和配飾。這有助于打破“商店購(gòu)買”的概念，讓我想盡可能多地去創(chuàng)造生活中的許多事物。

As a small boy, my father always encouraged me to try and make my own things. At the time I would get mad at him, but now I am thankful. There is a great pleasure in being able to create things from scratch that look and function beautifully. I am very thankful to my father for this. When I turned 14 I got interested in clothing and before long was selling garments and accessories to my friends, and in a small local boutique. This helped to break down that “store-bought” concept, leading me to want to create as many of the things in my life as I could. 

Narkii:

從您的工作經(jīng)歷中我們發(fā)現(xiàn)您接觸過(guò)多個(gè)工作領(lǐng)域，有些是與設(shè)計(jì)行業(yè)無(wú)關(guān)的，您當(dāng)初為什么會(huì)選擇從事那些行業(yè)呢？讓您印象最深的一份工作是什么？

From your working experiences, you had touched many fields of works, some of which were unrelated to the design industry, why did you choose that jobs? And which job most impressed you?

Rafael Hulme：

我思維活躍，并一直在不斷前進(jìn)著。 新的技能和挑戰(zhàn)總能讓我充滿興趣，而它們也以最有趣的方式互相影響著。作為一名建筑師的工作對(duì)我的平面設(shè)計(jì)產(chǎn)生了很大的影響，同時(shí)也極大地幫助了我去理解物體的組裝方式，甚至還提高了我的繪圖技巧和3D建模。同樣，我視頻編輯工作的經(jīng)歷對(duì)我的DJ表演也產(chǎn)生了影響，因此，我常常對(duì)不同專業(yè)間相互產(chǎn)生的影響而感到驚訝和激動(dòng)！

I have a very active mind that is constantly moving. New skills and challenges keep me interested and influence one another in the most interesting ways. My work as a builder has impacted my graphic design work and also helped immensely in my understanding of how objects are assembled, and even improved my drawing skills and 3D modeling too. Similarly my video editing experience impacts on my DJ performances. I am often surprised and thrilled at how this disciplines can influence one another!

2017Red Dot Award. Winner — HAEPHESTUS

Narkii:

您之前有做過(guò)動(dòng)畫師，這對(duì)于您在工業(yè)設(shè)計(jì)上有什么影響呢？

You had once done as an animator before, does this job have any effect on your industrial design?

Rafael Hulme：

動(dòng)畫師的工作對(duì)我的設(shè)計(jì)技能也有著很大的影響。你會(huì)學(xué)到很多關(guān)于一個(gè)物體在你面前移動(dòng)時(shí)所展現(xiàn)的樣子。大多數(shù)物體的設(shè)計(jì)都是從特定角度看起來(lái)很好看，然而最好的設(shè)計(jì)是360度全方位設(shè)計(jì)到位，物體每一個(gè)側(cè)面都能考慮到。當(dāng)你移動(dòng)物體并觀察其旋轉(zhuǎn)方式時(shí)，你可以更好地了解一個(gè)物體的各個(gè)功能以及它們是如何影響整個(gè)設(shè)計(jì)。另外，能夠在頭腦中拾取并旋轉(zhuǎn)一個(gè)物體的能力對(duì)于設(shè)計(jì)師來(lái)說(shuō)是非常有價(jià)值的，動(dòng)畫師的工作對(duì)我在這方面的能力起到了很大的幫助作用。

My work as an animator has richly impacted my design skills. You learn a lot about how an object looks when it is moving in front of you. Most objects are designed to look good from specific angles, the best design is 360 degrees with no side left unconsidered. Also, individual features and how they effect the whole of a design can be better understood when you can move an object around and see how it is revealed in rotation. Additionally, ones ability to pick up and rotate an object in one mind is very valuable to a designer, and the animation work helped with that immensely.

Narkii：

從您的資料里我們發(fā)現(xiàn)您有很豐富的設(shè)計(jì)經(jīng)驗(yàn)，那您認(rèn)為在工業(yè)設(shè)計(jì)里最重要的一點(diǎn)是什么？

We find that you have rich experiences in the design. What is the key point do you think in the industrial design?

Rafael Hulme：

對(duì)我來(lái)說(shuō)工業(yè)設(shè)計(jì)是解決問(wèn)題的一種形式。在考慮一個(gè)個(gè)體的具體問(wèn)題時(shí)，保持創(chuàng)造性和縝密性是關(guān)鍵。你越能夠腳踏實(shí)地、越能去仔細(xì)觀察另一個(gè)人的經(jīng)歷你就越能幫助他們。偉大的設(shè)計(jì)師對(duì)他人的經(jīng)歷總是能感同身受。

Industrial design to me is a form of problem solving. Being creative and thorough when considering which specific problems an individual has is key. The more you can get down on the ground and look closely at another human beings experience the better you’ll be at helping them. Great designers are empathetic to the experience of others.

Narkii：

您的設(shè)計(jì)作品大都是來(lái)源于生活并且服務(wù)于生活，因此您總體的一個(gè)設(shè)計(jì)理念或者設(shè)計(jì)宗旨是什么呢？

Your design works are mostly coming from life and then serving life, so what is your general design concept or design purpose?

Rafael Hulme：

理想的設(shè)計(jì)不僅有助于完成手頭的任務(wù)，而且還可以滿足更大的需求。Haephestus，這款便攜式蒸汽輪機(jī)發(fā)電機(jī)，能夠滿足年輕人的需求，但這個(gè)作品還有更多好處。有一天，這件作品可能會(huì)被放大，并帶到第三世界，在那里它可以為真正需要的人提供電力。

Ideally design helps not only the task at hand, but serves some greater bigger need too. With Haephestus, the portable steam turbine electricity generator, the needs of a young man are met, but the project has further benefits. One day it’s possible that this thing could be scaled up and brought to the third world where it could provide power to those in real need. 

RUFFRUCK

Narkii：

您的設(shè)計(jì)團(tuán)隊(duì)在設(shè)計(jì)Haephestus時(shí)遇到最大的困難是什么？最后又是怎么解決的？

What most challenged you and your team when designing the Haephestus? And how did you finally solve it?

Rafael Hulme：

我們的團(tuán)隊(duì)一開(kāi)始并沒(méi)有達(dá)到很好的銜接。一開(kāi)始沒(méi)有什么想法，我們似乎無(wú)法就某些事情達(dá)成一致意見(jiàn)。于是我們決定在當(dāng)?shù)氐囊粋€(gè)國(guó)家公園集體露營(yíng)，這是一種親身體驗(yàn)，既能產(chǎn)生想法，又能讓團(tuán)隊(duì)團(tuán)聚在一起。最后我們結(jié)束了愉快的時(shí)光，而由此所激起的熱情幫助我們把所有的Rugged產(chǎn)品整合在了一起。

Our group wasn’t connecting well at the beginning. Ideas weren’t jumping out at us and we couldn’t seem to agree on some things. We decided to go camping as a group at a local state park, and it was that hands-on experience that both generated the ideas and brought the group together. We even ended up having a great time and the resulting enthusiasm is what helped us to put together the entire range of Any Rugged products.

Narkii：

您認(rèn)為在為狗狗或其他寵物設(shè)計(jì)產(chǎn)品時(shí)，要考慮到的關(guān)鍵因素是什么？

What’s the most important thing you should consider when design the products for dogs or other pets?

Rafael Hulme：

狗狗就像人一樣，它們會(huì)無(wú)聊，不舒服，甚至生氣。因此站在它們的角度去考慮到它們很重要，而不僅僅是憑借我們自己的經(jīng)驗(yàn)。當(dāng)然，一條褲子讓狗狗穿起來(lái)看著很可愛(ài)，但一只不舒服、緊張的狗并不會(huì)完成它本可以做的偉大事情，比如幫助你放松或與陌生人接觸。所以，通過(guò)考慮到狗狗的快樂(lè)，我們實(shí)際上也是在為我們自己的利益服務(wù)。當(dāng)我們感到快樂(lè)、輕松、受到尊重時(shí)，我們都會(huì)盡我們最大的努力去思考和工作。

A dog is like a human, they get bored, uncomfortable and angry just as we do. It is important to consider them, not merely our own experience. Sure, the pantsuit looks cute on the dog, but an uncomfortable and nervous dog is not going to do the accomplish the great things that dogs can, like helping you relax or connect with a stranger. So, by considering the dog’s happiness, we are in fact serving our own interests too. We all do our best thinking and work when we are happy, relaxed and feel respected. 

Seraph

Narkii：

您的有些作品是團(tuán)隊(duì)作品，那么作為一名設(shè)計(jì)師，在團(tuán)隊(duì)合作中可能會(huì)有跟其他人不一樣的獨(dú)特想法，您會(huì)怎樣解決與其他成員在想法上的沖突呢？

Some of your works is the team works. As a designer, you may have unique ideas which is different from others, how did you solve the conflicts in the different way of thinking?

Rafael Hulme：

作為一個(gè)群體中最好的設(shè)計(jì)師有時(shí)候意味著要成為最好的傾聽(tīng)者。傾聽(tīng)別人的想法并表明自己正在積極傾聽(tīng)的同時(shí)，非常徹底地去內(nèi)化這些想法是孕育出一個(gè)全新想法并可能在自己心中結(jié)交到一些朋友的最佳方式。一個(gè)想法自由地你的大腦中遨游之后，它也會(huì)收集來(lái)自其他人的想法，然后你可以反過(guò)來(lái)把這個(gè)想法傳遞到另一個(gè)地方。創(chuàng)造一個(gè)空間，讓所有這些迭代有一定的空間去呼吸，存活或死于自己的優(yōu)點(diǎn)下，這才是促成完美合作的方式。

Being the best designer in a group can sometimes means being the best listener. Hearing the ideas of others and internalizing them very thoroughly while showing that you are listening actively is the best way to let a fetal idea gestate and possibly make some friends in your own mind. After an idea has the freedom to swim around in your brain it will collect others and then you can in turn pass that on to another where the process happens again. Creating a space in which all of these iterations are given space to breathe and live or die on their own merit is what makes for great collaborations.

Narkii：

在您這么多個(gè)設(shè)計(jì)作品中，您認(rèn)為最成功的或者自己最喜歡的是哪件作品呢？原因是什么呢？

Which designing work do you think is the most successful or you like best? And what’s the reason?

Rafael Hulme：

在我的投資組合作品中，鴉片劑過(guò)量使用裝置Seraph是最重要的。 每年都有數(shù)以千計(jì)的人死亡，而且這個(gè)數(shù)字還一直在增加。這款簡(jiǎn)單而經(jīng)濟(jì)實(shí)惠的設(shè)備可以大大改變這一點(diǎn)。這個(gè)問(wèn)題會(huì)影響到我們所有人，我希望看到它能被用來(lái)拯救生命。

Of the works in my portfolio the opiate overdose device Seraph is perhaps the most important. Thousands of people are dying every year and the numbers are going up all the time. This simple and affordable device could change that pretty dramatically. This problem effects us all and I for one would love to see it being used to save lives.

Narkii：

您提到您比較喜歡計(jì)劃事情，您今后對(duì)自己有什么規(guī)劃呢？

You have mentioned that you love to plan things. Could you please tell us what are your plans for yourself in the future?

Rafael Hulme：

當(dāng)然！我目前正在尋找我生命中的下一個(gè)重要篇章！ 我在紐約面試了一個(gè)非常有前途的職位，我暗自希望他們會(huì)成為重要的一環(huán)，因?yàn)槲乙恢痹趯ふ乙粋€(gè)能夠結(jié)合我建筑，制作，軟商品，像素和創(chuàng)意方面等各種技能的職位。到目前為止，這已經(jīng)非常令人興奮了。人們對(duì)我提出的各種職位以及自由職業(yè)者提供的自由職位令我印象深刻，但我正在尋找一個(gè)全職的職位，這不僅會(huì)利用到我不尋常的技能,也能為我提供全新的挑戰(zhàn)并面對(duì)全新的人員和環(huán)境。我目前也正在組織暑期的一些DJ活動(dòng)，并在我的一些同學(xué)的項(xiàng)目上進(jìn)行咨詢，以便在我展現(xiàn)這項(xiàng)驚人的夢(mèng)想工作時(shí)依舊能保持自我。

Sure! I am currently looking for the next big chapter in my life! I have interviewed for a very promising position in NYC and I am secretly hoping they will be the one as I continue to search for a position that combines my skills in Construction, Fabrication, Soft goods, Pixels and Ideas. So far It’s been super exciting, and I have been impressed with the range of positions people are suggesting for me and the sheer magnitude of freelance offers, but I am looking for a full time position that will not only utilize my rather unusual skills, but also offer new challenges and people and locations. I am also currently organizing a few summer DJ events and consulting on a few of my classmates projects to keep myself occupied while I manifest this amazing dream job.

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